Women are dogs, says woman.

by d

F is too upset to write about this coherently, so it falls to me. As mentioned, she often surfs the far side of the ideological pool. I don’t like to go there too often, and I’m reminded why every time something particularly egregious comes up and she passes it along.

Political thought is often depicted along a single line, left to right. This is an oversimplified diagram, as is “feminist vs. anti-feminist.” For instance, you can be a woman who thinks women should be meek helpmates, or you can be a man who thinks all women are worthless. On this, they agree:

Women are animals.

This goes well beyond my atheistic, scientific acknowledgement that humanity is just one of many animals on this planet. No, MarkyMark and Laura Grace Robbins believe that women should be treated like animals.

Robbins: The major theme that Cesar Millan tries to get across is that as a dog owner you need to show that you are the leader of the pack and that you want your dog to be in a “calm and submissive” state. Hmmmmm, sounds familiar, huh? Discussions from my post, Submitting Love, got me to thinking if only there was a ‘wife whisperer’ who could come in and teach husbands how to get a handle on their wives.

Mark: Thank you, Laura.  That’s great stuff!

Robbins has a post all about this Wife Whisperer concept. She literally takes a a WikiHow article called How to Control Your Dog’s Behavior By Becoming a Pack Leader and replaces ‘dog’ with ‘wife.’ Her comments are in parentheses. This results in phrases like:

Is your wife doing a behavior that you don’t approve of? Does she pull you around? Do you feel that you can’t control her? Is it hard to take items (pretty things) away from her without being bitten (not literally of course)?

First paragraph, and we have enough to make most people fume. Because women are all about “pretty things.” That’s the only sort of thing we hold onto, and it must be irrelevant because it is pretty. There’s no redeeming value in ‘pretty.’ Bonus, we’re children who must have our pretty things confiscated.

Robbins’ link for “pretty things” leads us to a page with this graphic:

All the pretty things that keep us wives separated from our husbands. How many girly things are out there that “steal our hearts away”? A pretty thing is essentially an idol. From shopping and nice clothes to feminism and independence. Pretty things are not just material objects, but also the non-material, such as ideas and philosophies. A pretty thing is whatever distracts us from God, and in extension–our husband. Eve was the first one to fall for a pretty thing, a glistening piece of fruit.

It appears that Ms. Robbins subscribes to the “If it feels good, STOP.” theory of purity. Feminism and independence might make you feel good, but they are bad, BAD! They shall keep you from godly husband, and your manly god! Stop it, stop it now!

Ahem. Back to Women Are Dogs:

Your wife is most likely thinking that she is the pack leader, or at least she is confused about who is the pack leader. When you claim leadership, the wife is free and content to be a happy willing follower.

Yeah, I’m confused. I thought marriage was an equal partnership, not a theocracy. Sadly, that is exactly how some people see it.

1. Good Reasons to be a Pack Leader
Your wife will remain well-behaved, even around other women who may or may not be.
Your wife will learn to respect your possessions.
Reduces constant barking (or whining).
Your wife will be less anxious and nervous.
Your wife will be happier and more content.

If your wife can’t let down her hair with you, and she can’t let it down around her female friends, who the hell does she have to turn to?

She doesn’t respect your possessions? Oooooh, you are WHIPPED, man.

I suspect that a decrease in barking and whining would be due to fear, not respect. Which makes me doubt the ‘less anxious and nervous’ part.

Happier and more content… Yanno, if she were content like that, she probably would already be that way.

And quite frankly, you should’ve known all this about her before you married her, asshole.

2. Learn to Think like a Woman
Realize that there are some areas where women do think like men, and some areas where they do not. This is important because often men will reinforce negative behavior without knowing it.
Realize that women live in the present much more than men do. Just because a woman has done something for a while, doesn’t mean that she can’t change. In the same way, just because a woman has had a tough upbringing, or might have been abused, doesn’t mean that she can’t be rehabilitated into a loving, calm wife.
Women do not have guilt or pity in their mindsets/thinking. If a man expresses these emotions, a woman will interpret them as weakness.
Women can be given affection without being touched. A look can also convey affection.
Women have different levels of excitability that they progress through. A problem woman that goes into a frenzy in certain situations cannot be corrected when she has reached her highest level of intensity. You must correct at the lower levels to prevent her from becoming out of control.

A huge chunk of this violates A) known psychology, and B) common fucking sense.

Women do not have guilt or pity in their mindsets/thinking.

Robbins, did you stop to proof this AT ALL? Name me one woman who never feels guilty and never pities another person. These are signs of a ruthless sociopath, not a healthy human being, least of all the sort of women Robbins is talking about, the sort who cherish home and family.

Only the last part makes any sense, and applies pretty universally. Try to defuse things before the escalate.

3. Learn the Pack Mentality
Women have a pack mentality (or herd mentality). If you have a wife, you are a member of the same pack that she is.

This is a topic for discussion, and I would really like to hear what others have to say about it. As an individual, I am not interested in grouping. Women, especially girls, have a tendency to clique up. Perhaps this is skewed by TV and books, but it seems that many of these groups (I’m thinking high school cliques) are more about self-protection that actual friendship. As such, the weakest member of a group may be excised as soon as they threaten the rest.

And lets make a distinction between pack mentality and herd mentality. One refers to predators, the other to herbivores. They are not the same thing.

Personally, I feel that humans on the whole can merge into mobs or herds.

If a husband shows weakness when he first brings her into their pack, the wife will often try to become the pack leader herself.
There will always be a pack leader. If you make sure that it is you, then you’ll be able to control your wife in any situation because they will look to you to see how they should react.
A woman will try to become the pack leader if no one else is.
Consider women in a pack (think women and their girlfriend cliques; think how one woman in that group always tends to be the leader and the other women follow whatever she does). Women are happier when they know their place in the pack. Your wife will be more content and happy when you consistently behave like a pack leader. If you allow your wife to be leader in the home, but want to be the leader in other areas, you will frustrate your wife. (The trick, as a husband, is becoming that one popular woman in the girlfriend clique who she will follow around).

Wow, so, the solution is to be “that one popular woman.” Well, c’mon, boys, what’re you waiting for?

Does all this mean that a woman is to bow to her husband/pack leader in ALL things? What about when she knows better? (Yes, even Robbins admits that such a thing is possible, sort of.)

A pack leader … (I recognize some of these are more a wife’s realm, deciding about dinner, etc.)
Decides where the pack will go.
Decides when the pack will eat.
Decides who gets what food.
Decides who is allowed to bark (whine) and when (if at all).
Decides when the pack is allowed to play (decides when to separate business from pleasure).
Decides what the pack is allowed to play with (decides who are appropriate friends that will exert good influences).
Decides how other members of the pack must behave (decides how the family should behave).
Decides who owns what.

So generous, Ms. Robbins! Husband is in charge of everything, including who the wife may be friends with, but she can be in charge of dinner. Unless he objects. But kinda.

Does anyone else read this as permission to corner a woman into an abusive relationship? Abusers often begin by cutting their victims off from external support. Your family and friends would help you to leave, so you’re not allowed to see them anymore. Everything revolves around the abuser. The abuser and his or her temper determines everything–where you go, what you do, and for how long.

The rest of the pack is not resentful of how this works. To them, it is normal. If you modify your behavior to fit to this model (when relating to your wife), your wife will be content because her pack is working the way her instincts say it should. ( I think that is particularly interesting, about how her instincts say it should work, NOT how society says it should).
When pack leaders correct children in their pack, they are rarely aggressive, but just assertive. Men must learn this combination of calm assertiveness to master their role as the pack leader.

Who doesn’t know a child who resents his or her parents, or their place in the family hierarchy? Even the most structured of families and the happiest of children will have these feelings. I’m a prime example–My parents always presented a united front, and I have always respected them and their authority. That never stopped me in my rebellious moments for wishing I wasn’t treated like a child. Human beings simply are not hard-wired to accept all authority, and bow to it for all time. If we were, all leaders would stay in power until their deaths, there would be no need for periodic elections, and coups would be a myth.

I will agree with the point that children should be handled assertively. Aggression frightens them. Reason and a firm, calm hand are far more effective.

4. Be Calm and Assertive When Dealing with Your Wife
Assertive is different than aggressive.
If your wife knows voice commands, use them:
Only in firm tones.
Don’t use a high-pitched voice.
Don’t speak in a cutesy voice, like you would to a baby.
Do not speak in anger.
Don’t say it as if you are asking the wife a question.
If you give a command and you know your wife is purposefully ignoring you, stop giving the command, you’re just making it worse.
If you have seen Star Wars, the “Jedi mind trick” is a good example of calm assertiveness. Not the waving of hands, but the firmness and calmness of the tone of voice.


Robbins, did you proof this thing at all!?

I just–I can’t even begin. IF she knows voice commands. Voice commands! Are we asking is this poor woman can speak at all, or if she’s been trained to listen to commands like, “Sit!”, “Stay!” and “Blow me!”?

If she purposefully ignores that last one, stop giving the command because it’s clearly never going to happen.

If you try to give her the Jedi Mind Trick while commanding her to blow you, get ready to be served. With divorce papers.

5. Be the Pack Leader
A less dominant man can become the leader of many much larger and stronger woman [sic]. It is a matter of attitude, not physical power or strength.
Ways you can convey to your wife that you are the pack leader:
Exit the house first when you go out. Enter first when you go in.
Sit at the head of the table.
Let your wife know what behaviors you, as the pack leader, don’t like.
Be consistent to correct any behavior that you don’t want. Your wife will be confused if sometimes you correct her, and sometimes you don’t.

You know those old cartoons, where a short, spindly, nervous little man in a suit would be married to some huge, overbearing woman with a loud voice that made him drop his tea? That is what I imagine when I read, “A less dominant man can become the leader of many much larger and stronger woman [sic].”

Note, not just one wife, but many! Gentlemen, this is your lucky day! Bigamy is now sanctioned by Ms. Robbins, so long as you know how to manage your pack! Too much hassle? Never fear that brood of meaningless daughters you sired in the effort to get just one son. Ms. Robbins says it’s ok to corral and hobble them! Pick their friends for them, stare them into submission, and let wifey have her one joy in life–serving all your favorite foods, every night.

Other Tips
Be assertive, but not aggressive.
Do not yell at your wife. If you think you have to, you are doing something wrong.
Share affection as much as you want, but only when your wife is in a calm, submissive state of mind.
Women usually want to please men. Be consistent, so they understand what you expect of them.
Be consistent. It will help your wife learn more quickly, and help them to trust you.

Again, that sounds more like rules for children–and I would never expect a child to be submissive, only respectful. I would never treat a child like an animal, never mind an adult.

Her shoddy copy and paste finished, Robbins has this to add:

The last thing I want to bring up is that Cesar [Milan] will often give a dog a little pinch when it is misbehaving. So perhaps a little pinch or squeeze of the hand will also do the wife good. Out in public, if she is getting too loud or annoying, or simply just not being respectful, give her a little sign that that sort of behavior is not acceptable. Works for me, and has caused me to bite my tongue. Sometimes it is also just a look. Come to think of it, don’t pinch—that will get you a DV charge–ha!

If your wife is misbehaving in public, give her a pinch! Or maybe just a good, cowing glare. That’ll shut her up!

And don’t worry about that Domestic Violence bullshit. They’re always overreacting to Bible-sanctioned spanking and such.

This article really scares me. It could be a how to manual for someone who wants to abuse their spouse. Robbins’ attitude (not quoted) seems to be that there are women out there who could use a good, sharp pinch, or more.

So does MarkyMark. I find his commenters more nauseating than the article itself. Har har, a dog is less work and more agreeable than a woman.

MarkyMark, his readers, and Ms. Robbins all have a big problem with assertive, or heaven forfend dominant women. This is like saying, “Cars are ok, but I just can’t stand it when their indicator lights turn on! It’s such a hassle having to slow down for them!”

I am not a dog, I am not a car, and I am part of the dominant animal species on this planet. I expect you to respect me as your fellow human being, not pigeonhole me.

Verbal commands my ass.

5 Comments to “Women are dogs, says woman.”

  1. Wow. I just don’t have words…

  2. Marky Mark’s blog is always full of obnoxious commentators. Awful misogynists who set feminism up as their bogeyman because they can’t think of a single reason (I mean, RATIONAL reason) that their lives might be otherwise screwed up. But I’m not going to argue with them. It’s always pointless to argue with a bigot.

    (You wonder why she doesn’t cite examples when it come to certain things. Like, say, why women are incapable of feeling pity or guilt. These are not facts. These are biases. These are the statements of a bigot who just won’t listen to advice or evidence that contradicts her position. Why doesn’t she cite anything? Because she can’t prove it. There’s no way she can prove it.)

    This post is the blueprint of an abusive relationship. As someone who isn’t very religious, I find that kind of relationship with God something like abuse. I understand how wonderful devotees thing total sublimation can be. These feelings toward a higher power exist throughout religion. But using such a relationship to justify the emotional abuse and torture of wives and girlfriends is downright nasty.

    Make her less than human, Isolate her. Strip her of that identity; graft her to yourself and make her an extension of you.

    How can you feel so low, so wretched about yourself, that you consent be treated like an animal?

    I loved this:

    “And don’t worry about that Domestic Violence bullshit. They’re always overreacting to Bible-sanctioned spanking and such.”

    That’s right. This whole thing felt like a a Biblically approved spanking. Except I’ll call a spade a spade. This is a spanking and beyond. It is an utter corruption of values and a repudiation of egalitarianism. These are a bunch of idiots who think that the Enlightenment was the worst thing to happen in the past five centuries. I should not take them seriously.

    And yet… when I read something like this …

    I’m so glad you gave them the good ol smackdown. They’ll live in their happy bubble of stupid disenfranchising philosophy and we’ll somehow train ourselves not to froth at the mouth about it.

    • I know why she didn’t cite facts. Because she just farking copied and pasted, made a few changes for readability, and didn’t process a damn thing. It’s irresponsible, aside from anything else.

      Then again… if no one gets upset about it, will it ever change?

  3. Mrs. Robinson (or as I like to think of her, Rotten Robby) obviously needs a wakeup call. Hello?! This is the 21st century NOT the 18th. And even back then, women were to be treated with respect. Maybe this woman is a wannabe geisha? Whatever the case, she obviously gets off on subjugation. Ironically enough, Ceasar Milan’s methods are recognized as cruel and unnecessarily harsh by several animal welfare organizations. Those methods are not fit for our canine companions much less the female human population. Well done putting Rotten Robby in her place (I’m pretty sure it’s next to the whips and chains).

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